Obesity Discussion Forums

[latoya]

hello again

here i want toask everybody f one of these three things or al three together can help to reduce weigt?

What is your experience or opinion. Can this help or support the diet?

Tell me!

latoya

[Chrisydj]

well sex does burn alot of calories and rock & roll is great to work out to or just dancing to it it great exercise but the drugs um...i wouldnt recommend any it is healthier to lose weight the old fashioned way eat less and exercise more plus you are more likely to keep it off doing it without the drugs besides who knows what those "diet pills" are really doing to your body. we may find years from now that they cause cancer or kill your thyroid or mess up your liver or gall bladder or who knows what...i know i dont wanna take that risk with my health

[latoya]

Hello


Thank for your reply. But with drugs I meant Pills like Redusyn or Kioslim. These are weight loss drugs.
Is anyboy out there Who knows this kind of compound?

Tell me!

latoya

[Kel]

Hey latoya, I have also heard about kioslim. But I think that this product is quite new and unfortunately I haven't got so much information about it yet. But if it is really worth its money I might try it. Have you ever taken it or do you know anyone can may prove its impact?

[Chrisydj]

i was referring to weight loss drugs too i wouldnt recommend taking diet pills because i've never seen the results last. and you gotta wonder what all those man made diet pills are really doing to your body i'm just a skeptic i mean has anyone done any serious studies about what they really do the body in a long term sort of way

[Obesity Discussion]

weight loss drugs are a waste of money in my opinion, and the only thing on there that would benefit you is sex, or rock n roll if you plan on dancing or really jamming on a musical instrument.

[latoya]

hi again

so, having sex may help, right? I am doing it often and afterwards I am eating something really solid like meat or pizza. Rockn Roll...well actually the same as sex or?

To Kioslim, I dont know if there is existing any serious studies about. But however that may be, shall I test it or not? Who has some information?

thx in advance..

[Kel]

Originally Posted by Chrisydj

i was referring to weight loss drugs too i wouldnt recommend taking diet pills because i've never seen the results last. and you gotta wonder what all those man made diet pills are really doing to your body i'm just a skeptic i mean has anyone done any serious studies about what they really do the body in a long term sort of way

Well it might be possible that results don't last that long but it's the same with diets isn't it? Many people gain most of weight back after having finished to be on a diet.

Latoya unfortunately I am not sure if there are any serious studies about kioslim. But why not trying it? It is said that you felt immediately more active and that your appetite faded. Sounds great or what do you think?

[Chrisydj]

losing weight and keeping it off isnt about going on a diet or taking pills it is a life change. it is something you'll be doing for the rest of your life if you are commited to it. you have to change the amount you eat and what you eat and how often you eat and exercise. if you want to be successful. if you just count your calories you'll lose weight but if you are eating unhealthy foods all the time you'll be thinner but maybe not healthier. I've cust out ALOT of carbs all sugars except what is natrually in the foods no sodas. I eat mosty veggies and lean meats with some whole grain breads and pastas thrown in here and there. I have 3 meals a day plus small snacks in between I feel like i'm eating all day long but i'm still losing weight and seldom feel hungry. I have more energy now than i did before and i'm not sleeping all day long on my days off I'm actually gettin up before 9am. Diet pills that do cause weight loss are usually only a quick fix and as soon as you stop taking them you will usually gain the weight back unless you've made some serious changes to you life like eating habits and exercise. I watched my mom over the years try diet pill after diet pill only to fail everytime. but when she finally decided to change her eating habbits she lost about 60lbs and kept it off for about 4 years till her back finally went out on her for good and the depression set in and she started to eat all the time. now she is going back to the eating habits she had when she lost the weight the last time and is losing again. it is slower without diet pills but it is healthier and more long term with out them

[Kel]

But I think that this change of life is really difficult for some people. And most people are not able to put it into action. They were told to have "healthy food" and being highly motivated they stop eating anything unhealthy like ice cream, sweets, potato chips, junk food and so on. But of course they don't want to live without this kind of food for the rest of their lifes.
You also mentioned that you cut out most of the carbs and all sugars. But do you really want to live like this for the rest of your life? I mean it is great that it works for you right now and I wish you all the best for the future but I think this isn't a suitable solution for quite many people.
So I believe that neither diet pills nor a diet guarantee losing weight and being skinny forever. Everybody has to decide which is the best way for him or her.

[Chrisydj]

I'm not saying that the change is easy. It is hard at first, But if you are determined to be healthy or skinny or whatever you can put your mind to it. Anything is possible if you want it bad enough. And there is nothing wrong with a LITTLE ice cream or sweets in moderation. But lets be honest how many of us got to our sizes by eating in moderation? Not very many.
And actually i cut out all carbs and sugars for 2 weeks and am now slowly adding carbs back in and natrual sugars back into my diet. I dont eat anything that has white sugar in it. And yes i plan on eating like this for the rest of my life because this is what i want for myself. I WANT TO BE HEALTHY. I dont care so much about the weight or the way i look. I care about living and being able to enjoy my life and my kids and hopefully someday my grandkids. And i care about teaching my children how to be healthy so that they dont end up in the same situation i've gotten myself into.
If you feel that you arent able to cut out junk foods then dont just limit what you eat to say once a week have a sweet or small bowl of ice cream. You dont have to never eat the stuff again. just dont eat it as frequently. and eat less of it. Do you want to stay on diet pills the rest of your life? If you take them and lose weight but keep eating the same stuff that you have always done and then stop taking the pills once the weight is off what do you think will happen? do you think the weight will stay off if you didnt make any life changes? I dont think it will. I think that you'd or anyone would gain all the weight back and maybe more. I mean if you always do what you've always done you'll always get what you've always gotten. You have to make permenant changes for permenant results. And honestly changing what and the way you eat isnt enough alone. You have to exercise. You have to move to get results.
The only thing that guarantees weight loss is determination and mind set. If you start off thinking i'm not sure i can do this or i cant do this or i need to be able to eat my junk food you are doomed to fail 90% of the time. You have to believe that you can do it. You have to know that you can do it. You have to WANT to do it in order to actually do it. There is no magic pill that will make you forever skinny. If there was we wouldnt have fat rich people.

[Kel]

It is wonderful that you have found a way of losing weight and living healthy which you really like. But unfortunately I guess that most people fail in doing so.
No of course I don't want to stay on diet pills for the rest of mylife. I haven't even said that I am really going to try them. I just said that being on a diet is very difficult and I thought about taking diet pills. It might be possible that pills don't help either but I can't say so until I haven't tried them myself. And of course I am certain that you need to change your behaviour of eating while you are taking any kind of pills. Changing the behaviour of eating and exercising should be the first step. Always!

[Chrisydj]

changing your eating habits and exercising is really all you need i've just seen to many negative results from diet pills and the depression it can send some people into when they fail because the end result isnt what they thought it would be. i'm just saying before you try the "easy" way out with diet pills try it without them and if you do try the pills talk to your doctor first

[Kel]

But this is what I have been doing since the end of October. I have lost some weight but it could have been more. I am also jogging about three times a week. And even if I decided to try kioslim I would keep on exercising as often as I could and eating healthy food.

[MikeB]

Why does everyone need to try and take shortcuts?
The problem is that most of the food we eat today was not available until relatively recently, our bodies do not know how to deal with such processed foods and it causes BAD side effects. Just drop the white flour, soda's and sugar rich and processed foods and start eating simpler things such as apples, chicken breasts, veggies. It's that easy.
No white bread, no sugary drinks and coffees, no pie, no cake just stop eating it. You can have those things on a cheat day once or twice a month but you'll pay for it the next couple of days as it removes itself from your body.

You ate crap (and I did too) to get fat, stop eating crap to get back to a normal weight range. Get up, exercise - if you watch TV, do some ab exercises etc don't just lay for hours on end in front of the boob tube. Go outside! Play some games, etc, etc.

[Chrisydj]

I completely agree with MikeB. We as a society have become lazy. Its the same reason that there are so many obese kids these days. Parents, myself included, have taken the easy way out and gotten our kids fast foods or whatever was easiest to keep them happy and quiet not thinking about what we were doing to their bodies or our own

[Kel]

As I have aready mentioned it is easy to say something like that but the implementation isn't that easy all the time. People are different as well as their metabolisms and believe me I know many people who don't lose much weight although they carry out all the instructions which people gave them. And others like me lose weight - I don't want to contradict this at all - but very very slow and that's why I thought about other "possibilities" to lose weight.

[Chrisydj]

losing weight slowly is the best way to do it and your doctor will tell you the same thing everyone has to find the right number of calories for themselves and the right types of food for themselves that will allow them to lose weight. and healthy foods can taste just as good or even better than the unhealthy foods like if you are gonna eat pizza make your own use whole grain flat bread with homemade tomato sauce and lots of veggies and lean meat like say turkey bacon or skinless chicken breast. it tastes awesome but is so much better for you. that is the kinds of things i've been eating and losing weight with and...i hate to admit it..but i'm lazy person and i never cooked or seldom did i took the easy way out for it. always had an excuse until i made up my mind to be healthy now i cook my own foods so i know what is going into it and if i do eat out i get a salad or get a grilled chicken sandwhich and a side salad and dont eat the bread. there are so many little changes that you can make that will make a huge impact on your weight loss you just gotta be willing to look for it and besides anything worth having is never easy to achieve if it was easy there wouldnt be so many over weight people in the world

[MikeB]

What do you consider slowly? 2lbs a week is a good healthy drop, if you're not losing that then you need to re-evaluate your intake vs output and the amount of carbs you're taking in. Quite a few people need to really limit their carb intake to make a difference. Eating oatmeal or some other good carb for breakfast and then maybe whole wheat bread for a sandwhich at lunch and then no more carbs for the day. Also 3 days a week is not nearly enough exercise to get your body to do what you want. You have to PUSH yourself or your body adapts, every week try to do something harder than the week before. Either go faster, go for a longer time or add weight lifting. If you are doing the same cardio 3x a week change it up, always! Do not eat the same thing every day either as your body will adjust and stop changing.

[Obesity Discussion]

Originally Posted by Kel

As I have aready mentioned it is easy to say something like that but the implementation isn't that easy all the time. People are different as well as their metabolisms and believe me I know many people who don't lose much weight although they carry out all the instructions which people gave them. And others like me lose weight - I don't want to contradict this at all - but very very slow and that's why I thought about other "possibilities" to lose weight.

Could you define slow?