Obesity Discussion Forums

[hollandoforange]

i ate for donuts today all in 15 minutes
i think i eat because im depressed
im very depressed or depressed at times
part of it ive had so many false friends and met the wrong ones
i didnt like meds
st johns wort i guess helps
i get so angry

[bigdaddy38]

I have wrote a few articles and posted in several blogs and forums and I always say that to lose weight and get healthy you have to first get to the root cause of the problem. Ignorant people think that we are overweight because we want to be or because we just can't say no to food, but I say that there is a deeper issue that most obese people face, for you its just a matter of finding out what that issue is. If its depression than you need to get help for it, I had depression caused by sleep apnea, once I got diagnosed and was able to sleep I started exercising and getting healthier. Best of luck to you.

[hollandoforange]

did you see 60minutes tonight on tv?

some got stomach op thing and apnea ? or diabetes left in days

[hollandoforange]

but id never get that operation

im 196 pounds i should weigh maybe 176

[bigdaddy38]

I forgot that was on, but I still don't think they know all the side affects of surgery, a lot of people gain the weight back, and cutting your calories down that low is just not good for your body.

[Chrisydj]

Originally Posted by bigdaddy38

I forgot that was on, but I still don't think they know all the side affects of surgery, a lot of people gain the weight back, and cutting your calories down that low is just not good for your body.

i agree the idea of surgery scares me and what are the long term affects of it and from what i understand the ones that gain the weight back do it because they dont make the changes in their lives that is needed to maintain the weight loss it is a life change that needs to be made in order to become healthy and stay that way....we didnt gain this weight over night an we shouldnt lose it overnight either and if they dont figure out what is causeing the emotional eating or not eating nothing will work long term

[SunShine]

I feel there are deeper issues to on why we are obese.
I once heard a saying that went like this " We are not depressed because we are fat, but we are fat because we are depressed".
Which is true for me, I have been a depressed person most my life and I ate to try to get rid of that depression but I only got fat instead.

[Obesity Discussion]

Originally Posted by hollandoforange

i ate for donuts today all in 15 minutes
i think i eat because im depressed
im very depressed or depressed at times
part of it ive had so many false friends and met the wrong ones
i didnt like meds
st johns wort i guess helps
i get so angry

Depression can be a tough one to beat.....and eating only makes it worse, it's a horrible cycle. Have you considered seeing someone for your depression? Maybe it couldn't hurt to do so? I think tackling the depression could be key to your situation.

I also recommend watching the Secret. Good motivational movie. The Secret :: Official Web Site of The Secret Movie :: Law of Attraction

Give it a whirl maybe?

[SunShine]

I have talked to my doctor about giving me something for my depression but he said I just needed to get out more and do the things I like to do, he said I did not need medication.
I am considering going to another doctor whom I hear is real good for treating depression and obesity.
Will let you know what goes on with that.

[bigdaddy38]

Originally Posted by Pcola Gal

I have talked to my doctor about giving me something for my depression but he said I just needed to get out more and do the things I like to do, he said I did not need medication.
I am considering going to another doctor whom I hear is real good for treating depression and obesity.
Will let you know what goes on with that.

If your insurance covers it go to a psychologist instead, they know a lot more about depression and what medications to prescribe because it is there specialty. For me I stopped taking antidepressents because I figured out that I was not going to be happy until I lost the weight, no pills were going to change that. So I prescribed exercise to myself and I use the motivation of the fact that things will be better when I'm a healthy and going on a date every night to motivate me to keep going. You might need something for depression to get you started though everyone is different.

[jimmy]

I think Bigdaddy is probably onto something the first step is recognizing there is a problem. More importantly you have to want to take the step, the huge step of changing your life style. If you feel the need to change then look into your heart and find a reason to dedicate your life to living. It's as easy and difficult as that. Tomorrow is my anniversary marking one year from the day I started on the path to a quality life. I've lost the weight but what have I accomplished, the jury is out? If after 5 years I have not matured and kept the weight off what have I accomplished?

I've dedicated myself to seeing my grand daughter grow up. That all sounds great but this is an illness, an addiction caused by or the result of what we do not know. One thing we do know is obesity has reached epidemic proportions first among adults, then young adults and now teens. There is something systemically wrong with the way we live and eat which transcends age, race and gender. I wish you well, know that you are not alone, there many others suffering with the same problems. My suggestion is one day at a time, don't be afraid to reach out

Jimmy

[MikeB]

Can't eat if you're not in a place to eat. Buy, Beg, borrow or steal a portable music device and some headphones and put some high energy dancing music on it (or your favorite thrash tunes) and go walking. You can't be depressed or eat if you're not in the house sitting on your but. I don't care if it's 125F or -50F get outside and walk for awhile, sweat or freeze get to walking!!! When you get home you'll be energized and tired at the same time. Take your dog or partner or kids with your, just get outside!!!

[SunShine]

I love the outdoors and do spend alot of time out there but as far as walking I cannot right now due to bad arthritic knees. Sometimes when I get injections in them they will feel better and I will walk some but then they always start hurting agasin. My doctor is talking surgery on them but am not sure when. I really need the surgery but have just been putting it off for to long now.
I try to stay away from places that have food so I won't be tempted to eat, its been hard but I am training myself and so far so good.
I know what my problem is when it comes to eating and i have been working on overcoming that to so i am getting better.

[MikeB]

My knees used to kill me at 310+ and I thought since I'd broken both knee caps that I had arthritis. I take a generic MSM/chondroitin/glucosamine tabs (probably all spelled wrong) from Vitamin Shoppe but I've noticed lately that they don't hurt. They pop after leg day but I am fine. I used to have to live on ibuprofin for my knee aches but I have no pain any more!

[SunShine]

I am on the MSM/chondroitin/glucosamine tablets to now so hopely in time I will see some relief.
How long did it take you to feel any difference in your knees?

[bigdaddy38]

Originally Posted by Pcola Gal

I love the outdoors and do spend alot of time out there but as far as walking I cannot right now due to bad arthritic knees. Sometimes when I get injections in them they will feel better and I will walk some but then they always start hurting agasin. My doctor is talking surgery on them but am not sure when. I really need the surgery but have just been putting it off for to long now.
I try to stay away from places that have food so I won't be tempted to eat, its been hard but I am training myself and so far so good.
I know what my problem is when it comes to eating and i have been working on overcoming that to so i am getting better.

find a pool and swim or walk in the pool, if you can't afford it try to find a community pool or something cheap, then if you do that you can lose weight and eventually your knees won't hurt then you can walk and lose even more weight. Surgery won't help if you still have the weight, its like the commercials for the scooter store that say if you have trouble getting around, get a scooter, great a couple months of not walking and riding your scooter and your legs will be so week that you will never walk again, so the problem gets worse instead of better. My back is killing me but I'm still going to the gym everyday because its the only way that I will make a change and become a sexy bitch

[MikeB]

Originally Posted by Pcola Gal

I am on the MSM/chondroitin/glucosamine tablets to now so hopely in time I will see some relief.
How long did it take you to feel any difference in your knees?

About 50lbs...

[Obesity Discussion]

Originally Posted by Pcola Gal

I have talked to my doctor about giving me something for my depression but he said I just needed to get out more and do the things I like to do, he said I did not need medication.
I am considering going to another doctor whom I hear is real good for treating depression and obesity.
Will let you know what goes on with that.

I'd get a second opinion, and see a psychologist like bigdaddy said. HOWEVER, I do find that going out and doing things, being around people and exercise makes me feel less depressed.

Originally Posted by bigdaddy38

If your insurance covers it go to a psychologist instead, they know a lot more about depression and what medications to prescribe because it is there specialty. For me I stopped taking antidepressents because I figured out that I was not going to be happy until I lost the weight, no pills were going to change that. So I prescribed exercise to myself and I use the motivation of the fact that things will be better when I'm a healthy and going on a date every night to motivate me to keep going. You might need something for depression to get you started though everyone is different.

Well said.

Originally Posted by jimmy

I think Bigdaddy is probably onto something the first step is recognizing there is a problem. More importantly you have to want to take the step, the huge step of changing your life style. If you feel the need to change then look into your heart and find a reason to dedicate your life to living. It's as easy and difficult as that. Tomorrow is my anniversary marking one year from the day I started on the path to a quality life. I've lost the weight but what have I accomplished, the jury is out? If after 5 years I have not matured and kept the weight off what have I accomplished?

I've dedicated myself to seeing my grand daughter grow up. That all sounds great but this is an illness, an addiction caused by or the result of what we do not know. One thing we do know is obesity has reached epidemic proportions first among adults, then young adults and now teens. There is something systemically wrong with the way we live and eat which transcends age, race and gender. I wish you well, know that you are not alone, there many others suffering with the same problems. My suggestion is one day at a time, don't be afraid to reach out

Jimmy

Happy anniversary, and your reasons for changing your lifestyle are great. Good for you, and what a great grandparent!

Originally Posted by MikeB

Can't eat if you're not in a place to eat. Buy, Beg, borrow or steal a portable music device and some headphones and put some high energy dancing music on it (or your favorite thrash tunes) and go walking. You can't be depressed or eat if you're not in the house sitting on your but. I don't care if it's 125F or -50F get outside and walk for awhile, sweat or freeze get to walking!!! When you get home you'll be energized and tired at the same time. Take your dog or partner or kids with your, just get outside!!!

Bingo! If you want it bad enough you'll do what it takes to make it happen.

Originally Posted by Pcola Gal

I am on the MSM/chondroitin/glucosamine tablets to now so hopely in time I will see some relief.
How long did it take you to feel any difference in your knees?

10lbs is all it takes for me to feel a difference in my knees.

Originally Posted by bigdaddy38

find a pool and swim or walk in the pool, if you can't afford it try to find a community pool or something cheap, then if you do that you can lose weight and eventually your knees won't hurt then you can walk and lose even more weight. Surgery won't help if you still have the weight, its like the commercials for the scooter store that say if you have trouble getting around, get a scooter, great a couple months of not walking and riding your scooter and your legs will be so week that you will never walk again, so the problem gets worse instead of better. My back is killing me but I'm still going to the gym everyday because its the only way that I will make a change and become a sexy bitch

I still think you're a sexy bitch . I have pain in my shoulder, knee and toe but still force myself to exercise....no excuses. Ever.

[bigdaddy38]

Originally Posted by jimmy

I've dedicated myself to seeing my grand daughter grow up. That all sounds great but this is an illness, an addiction caused by or the result of what we do not know. One thing we do know is obesity has reached epidemic proportions first among adults, then young adults and now teens. There is something systemically wrong with the way we live and eat which transcends age, race and gender. I wish you well, know that you are not alone, there many others suffering with the same problems. My suggestion is one day at a time, don't be afraid to reach out
Jimmy

I think the problem is of our creation, because we want what we can't have we work 60 hours per week, then working 60 hours per week becomes the norm so employers expect it, not only that if you want to buy a house you and your spouse have to work 60 hours a week(this might not apply to some but it does to the majority of America). So now you are too busy to eat anything healthy and its about quick and cheap (fastfood) or even quick and cheap food from a store or restaurant usually isn't very healthy, also your kids at home waiting for you to get home are eating junk, or not eating at all so we all become obese until we make the necessary changes to our lives to correct the problem. It's the society we created and its been developing ever since we stopped hunting, and tilling the fields, we try to make things easier and easier by inventing gadgets and gizmos that make our lives easier, then we pay for them by working a little more overtime, eating the dollar menu just one more day a week to save a few bucks. OH I'm on a rant now, you have unleashed the beast. A few weeks ago there was a report released I don't remember which govt agency released it but I just found another one by the University of Washington stating that eating healthier is more expensive, they say that people can eat bad for about $4 per day and to eat healthy is about $30. Again this is just a matter of priorities couldn't the average person give up a few things to eat healthy like the $25,000 suv or the plasma television, if they really wanted to eat healthy they would find a way. END OF RANT

[jimmy]

Hi Bigdaddy

I'm not sure about the root cause being our lifestyle only or that the causality is entirely within our control. Something leads me to believe it's the additives in our food supply and processed foods themselves that maybe at issue. Let's use frozen broccoli with cheese as an example, take a look at the ingredients. My God why do you need all these chemicals to freeze broccoli with cheese? I was told its for shelf life and to preserve color, OK I guess it could be true? But I make this dish all the time and freeze it for up to 30 days without a change is color or taste? Why do we need water and a salt solution that clearly states 10% by weight for skinless chicken breasts that were never meant to be frozen before they are sold? It just does not wash for me not to mention at close to 5 bucks a lbs. that some expensive salt

Sorry if I'm coming across as a conspiracy theorist and glib but there should be some humor in this because obesity is anything but funny. People say and I've said, look at him or her, he or she should be ashamed but now that it's me The shoe fits but you must excuse me I'm not that person? I'm beautiful on the inside and it not my fault, sound familiar? I think both are true it is not our fault and for whatever reason it's getting worst. Today at church there were 1000 to 1200 people at 0800 service. Clearly 40% of the congregation were by definition obese. A lot of these people are in their 30's, 40's and late 20's. I'm old enough to remember when being large ( less not call it what it is ) was not looked upon as a good thing no one wanted a fat guy for a partner. Now it's big sexy and the overweight lover in the house, let me reassure those of you who don't know, one thing is indisputable. There is nothing about being sexually dysfunctional, diabetic, hypertensive or erectile dysfunction that's sexy, as Kirk Franklin says if you don't know now you know. I was scared and shamed into doing something about my weight. I realize there are a lot of people in denial who need to be right here with us trying our best to love ourselves again. Loving yourself is the first step on a journey that may last a lifetime, all journeys begin with one step. Thank God I've found some great companions

Jimmy