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[Miranda]

Traino, is there anyway you could lose the 4 slices of toast during breakfast? I've noticed it a couple of times now and it's a red flag to me. Or at least go for the 40 cal per slice bread?

Peanuts - yeah, nuts are a mixed blessing. Tasty, protein-filled but high in calories! We need to find you a different grab n go snack! Can you keep boiled eggs, grilled bnls/sknls chicken breasts, and protein bars on hand? Or mix up some tuna salad (I posted a recipe in the kitchen forum) and have celery sticks on hand to eat it with? When I'm in a hurry and don't have time to make a salad, I'll grab a precooked chicken breast, throw some spicy mustard on it, and wrap it in a lettuce leaf, lo carb tortilla, or a thin bun. For example a 100 cal thin bun, 5 oz of chicken breast, a generous squirt of chipotle mustard, and a handful of bagged salad greens contains 243 calories and 34 grams of protein. That's 100 calories less than your peanuts and almost 3x the protein!

You'll get this! Don't beat yourself up over the 2600 calorie day. I'm guessing that this is close to being a maintenance level for you. So, with the exception of water weight from the higher sodium you ate yesterday, you probably didn't gain anything! Keep us posted and let us know how your exercise goes today!

[d_tox]

Bowl of Oats (with a lillll bit of sugar on top!) 300ish cal, 6.4 pro.
Eggs on toast (4 slice 4 eggs) 516ish cal, 32 pro.
Handful of lightly salted peanuts (around 60g) 332ish cal, 13.4 pro.
2 bits of Schnitzel (fried! ) 624 cal, 91 pro.
1 cup mash potato with mix veg 316 cal, 10.6 pro.
1 slice pavlova 2 scoops ice cream 504 cal, 7.5 pro.

i agree, don't beat yourself up over this meal. it's just one meal out of an entire year. you can get back on track.

seriously, you really need to ditch most of the carbs.
did you read the link i left you at the beginning of your blog?
it's really important to see just how carbohydrates (in non-fiber form) get stored as fat since the liver & muscles can only store a limited amount.

another thing, which is really impiortant.... let your brother and dad know that you are serious about losing weight and that you need their help by nopt offering up things like ice-cream because you are in a vunerabvle state in the beginning just from temptations alone. these temptations may never go away (like within me for example) so that makes it just that much more difficult when somebody brings out the junk food and puts it right smack in front of you.

as far as the breads.... yeah, what mirandas says. bread is just another form of carbohydrates that are readily absorbed into your bloodstream as glucose. the eggs are good for breakfast but do you need to put them on toast? you can make a point to have leftover meats from the previous nights dinner to have alongside the eggs and eliminate the bread altogether.

i think the best sort of diet is one that is WAY WAY top heavy in fresh vegetables and fresh meat..... in fact, do not limit the vegetables imo. be careful with the fruits as they have lots of sugar..... and take multivitamins each day.

[Traino]

TY guys for the support I really appreciate it!

Miranda: The bread thing is not something I plan on being regular with although looking back you are right and 4 slices is excessive esp with my other carbs. So from now on if I do go for eggs Ill make up some scrabbled eggs with some veg tossed in and sweet chilli for some spice!

I'm going to be getting some protein shake mix later this week which (I'm hoping) will eliminate my need for on hand snack food (no more peanuts!). Though I may buy some no carb snack bars just in case. Not a big fan of tuna or seafood myself but I am planing on doing a lot more salad making in the coming weeks so ill have carrots/celery to snack on or maybe some leftover salad even.

D tox: I hear ya on the carbs and I very much intend to start having protein/veg exclusively for dinner/snacks in the coming weeks. Salads for dinner and carrots/celery type deal for snacks. Ill probably start alternating breakfast to have eggs more often too (scrambled without the toast).

I read the article you posted (the 1st half like you said) its a good read and a good reason to cut down like you said. I definitely need to watch it more.

I've talked to my brother and he seems to want to do just as I am but hes not sure how to get going. I've encouraged him to make a blog and join this site as the regular documenting helps keep me honest and the support from the awesome people on here is both extremely motivating and comforting. I talked to my dad about it after dessert actually but I'm not sure he got it I'll have to talk to him again.

As for today Its been great so far Back at the gym had a great workout and no temptations at all! My brother is over visiting so I'll leave it at that as I'm holding up the show atm. Have a great day everyone!

[d_tox]

I've talked to my brother and he seems to want to do just as I am but hes not sure how to get going. I've encouraged him to make a blog and join this site as the regular documenting helps keep me honest and the support from the awesome people on here is both extremely motivating and comforting. I talked to my dad about it after dessert actually but I'm not sure he got it I'll have to talk to him again.

that would be awesome. you two can keep each other accountable is an excellent idea.
as far as your dad goes, you'll have to learn how to say "no thanks"

consider all this junk food to be toxic to your body - give it a name like poison.
it sorta is in that it's probably shaving years off your life long term, carrying around all this extra weight that your hips, knees, feet, and heart have to support.

yeah, call ice cream.... poison.

[Traino]

Exercise:
10 mins on the bike
3 gym rounds

Food intake:

Bowl of Oats (with a lillll bit of sugar on top!) 300ish cal, 6.4 pro.
Foot long roast beef sub (double meat/wheat bread) 1238 cal, 82.4 pro.
2 Burgers (baked) 2 small potatoes (Also baked) 650ish cal, 48 pro.


Total: = 2188ish
Protein: = 136.8ish

Summary: Sooooo good to be back at the gym! omg! I feel 200% less lazy. Overall my day went pretty well I got back to the gym my sunburn is on the way out and I should be back in full exercise action in no time.

As for diet I am once again top heavy in carbos today which I really need to address... Luckily I have all my salad ingredients ready now as well as some chicken breast to pop in there for protein and some yummy garlic chili sauce! so that should be dinner sorted for the week.

I think my goal for the next week is going to be getting my carbs in line. I've spent a lot of time stressing over calories and getting enough protein that I've all but ignored that I'm still top heavy in carbs.

So for this week!

1. not more ice creamlike fiasco's! >.<
2. Not exceed more than oat's/sub in carbs.

[Miranda]

Awesome job on the exercise!Getting myself moving and keeping myself moving has been a key in the past, to my losing weight. I just feel better when I exercise, and when I exercise first thing in the morning, I find that it seems to curb my appetite!

Oatmeal - are you eating whole oats and not the instant stuff? If you're eating whole oats, then don't worry about those carbs. Whole oats contain a lot of fiber and have a lot of health benefits. If you're eating the instant stuff, do as d tox suggests and label it "POISON". And, I think a bit of sugar is just fine. I like one teaspoon of dark brown sugar and a lot of cinnamon in mine!

The subway sandwich - the processed meat is going to cause you to retain a lot of water weight, and it flat out isn't good for you on a daily basis. Can you buy an inexpensive roast, bake it or crock it, and slice it thinly into 4 oz portions? And use this nonprocessed meat for your sandwiches? And speaking of sandwiches, could you eat it on just the bottom part of the bread and toss the top part? Or, could you just eat your sandwich as a salad? How about this:

3-4 cups salad greens
4 oz. chopped home roasted beef (London Broil is lean)
1 chopped egg
1/2 avocado - chopped
1 ounce shredded cheese
sliced red onions
2 tbsp sliced black olives
1 tablespoon olive oil
2 tablespoons of your fave vinegar
salt, pepper, & parmesan to taste

Nutritional breakdown: Calories: 600-700 (protein 59, fat 42, carbs 14) This salad is guaranteed to fill you up! It's full of protein and healthy fats. If you're worried about the calories, lose the 144 cal avocado & the 90 cal cheese (keep the parmesan - it' only got 20 calories per 2 tsp) This will take you down to about 450 cals while losing only 9 grams of protein.

(((Traino))) I hope I don't sound like I'm lecturing you, that isn't my intention at all. I just want to see you drop your weight as quickly and painlessly as you possible can! I'm not necessarily a low-carber, I lean more toward whole foods as much as possible. But I do feel that the article d-tox has linked, has some really useful info!

P.S. I'm not one of those who thinks that potatoes are evil, but next time, ONLY ONE! Fill up the rest of your belly with steamed vegies! (This part is a lecture! )

[Traino]

((Miranda)) I find that as well with the exercise I just feel better after my workout. Usually tired but motivated ya kno? It helps alot with the rest of my days eating!

Oats - The oats I eat are 100% rolled oats I usually have around 40g with a ratio of 2-1 skim milk in the microwave. I use around a teaspoon of sugar atm but I'm planing on adding some protein shake mix to it instead soon as recommended by my instructor.

Subway - I actually had no idea that so much of their meat is processed =/ ( just did some reading). Which is a bit sad to hear actually because After my workout I really really dig my sub. But if its not as advertised I need to cut down on it a bit and not making it so cornerstone on my eating plan.

Salad - I'm not too keen on having salad for dinner and lunch most days tbh. Although cooking up a roast to use as meat is a great idea for getting meat for the salad.

Sadly I'm a little fussy when it comes to my salads and avocados and olives don't so much agree with me. Buuuuuut if we were to magically turn those into carrot and jalapenos It would be perfect! Maybe swap out the vinaigrette for sweet chili? Idk if that ruins any of the nutritional value I wouldn't think so?

You don't come across as lecturing at all to me! I appreciate the sugestions and motivation all around tbh. As for the taters, Most of that is when someone else cooks which at this point I'm considering just cutting out and cooking for myself all the time.

Potatoes alone are not evil. Just a pawn in the great carb conspiracy which is my diet atm! D:

[MommaHoffa]

Instead of white potatoes try sweet potatoes. They have so much more flavor and so many more vitamins that your body needs. They are great baked or grilled or as baked fries. I'm making my mouth water. LOL

Oh and I love the name of your blog. Made me smile and giggle and I needed that today.

[Traino]

Instead of white potatoes try sweet potatoes. They have so much more flavor and so many more vitamins that your body needs. They are great baked or grilled or as baked fries. I'm making my mouth water. LOL

Oh and I love the name of your blog. Made me smile and giggle and I needed that today.

I may just do that on days where I cut my sub that's a good idea.

and ty I had just come from a friends house the day before (was his 21st) and we watched all 3 lord of the rings extended on his projector in the hall in his house. Was awesome! If a bit tiring by the end .

[Traino]

Exercise:

10 mins on the bike
3 gym rounds

Food intake:

4 eggs scrambled (with a tiny bit of butter and chili sauce!) 430 cal, 26 pro.
Foot long roast beef sub (double meat/wheat bread) 1238 cal, 82.4 pro.
1 scoop Protein shake (banana flavor in skim milk) 194 cal, 31 pro.
chilli chicken salad (1 celery 2 carrots 1 chicken breast) 466 cal, 59.6 pro.


Total: = 2328ish
Protein: = 199ish

Summary: I think today went pretty well decided to cut out oats for today and have some eggs in the morning for a change. Got my protein shakes today! So that there was me having a tester one. Chicken salad was yummmmmy! I could have got for something more traditional and added lettuce and other nick knacks but by the time dinner rolled around I grabbed what was handy and made myself a nice carb free dinner!

Exercise was good got up nice and early and my sunburn doesn't hurt at all anymore so in a few days ill be good to go back to the pool. Though my pants are getting loose Which means I need to buy new ones. But thats progress right?

[Miranda]

((Miranda)) I find that as well with the exercise I just feel better after my workout. Usually tired but motivated ya kno? It helps alot with the rest of my days eating!

Oats - The oats I eat are 100% rolled oats I usually have around 40g with a ratio of 2-1 skim milk in the microwave. I use around a teaspoon of sugar atm but I'm planing on adding some protein shake mix to it instead soon as recommended by my instructor.

Subway - I actually had no idea that so much of their meat is processed =/ ( just did some reading). Which is a bit sad to hear actually because After my workout I really really dig my sub. But if its not as advertised I need to cut down on it a bit and not making it so cornerstone on my eating plan.

Salad - I'm not too keen on having salad for dinner and lunch most days tbh. Although cooking up a roast to use as meat is a great idea for getting meat for the salad.

Sadly I'm a little fussy when it comes to my salads and avocados and olives don't so much agree with me. Buuuuuut if we were to magically turn those into carrot and jalapenos It would be perfect! Maybe swap out the vinaigrette for sweet chili? Idk if that ruins any of the nutritional value I wouldn't think so?

You don't come across as lecturing at all to me! I appreciate the sugestions and motivation all around tbh. As for the taters, Most of that is when someone else cooks which at this point I'm considering just cutting out and cooking for myself all the time.

Potatoes alone are not evil. Just a pawn in the great carb conspiracy which is my diet atm! D:

LOL on the carrots and jalepenos! I don't especially care for either of those - but they are pretty much guilt free and super lo cal, so pile them on! Sweet Chilli sauce sounds interesting - I might have to check that out! I'm always on the lookout for new flavors to dress up my chicken breasts with!

Yesterdays calories were much more in line. Good for you! You are getting this! When do you have the opportunity to weigh again?

[Traino]

((miranda)) I should be getting weighed/remeasured/maybe body fat%? At the gym the end of next week I believe. It turns out they have the measurements from when I 1st started at the gym so you can probably disregard my measurements up top!

I <3 me some jalapenos! Carrots was just what I had on hand. I kinda like my salad chunky so carrots and celery is perfect. I have sweet chili on anything saladish.

Hopefully It all goes well as I could really use some hard confirmation that the weight is coming off. I mean I know it is... just would be nice!

[Miranda]

Confirmation is so important! When I've been good with exercise and eating, stepping on that scale is almost exciting! When I've been bad, as in the past 18 months , I try to avoid the thing!

Can you ask if you can use the scale at the gym a bit more frequently, like once a week?

[Traino]

Confirmation is so important! When I've been good with exercise and eating, stepping on that scale is almost exciting! When I've been bad, as in the past 18 months , I try to avoid the thing!

Can you ask if you can use the scale at the gym a bit more frequently, like once a week?

I could use it everyday if I wanted too. But seeing that I'm over the max weight for it atm id rather wait until my next full body checkup than have a daily reminder that I'm not under 200kg yet.

Also apparently Ive been eating too few calories (see http://www.obesitydiscussion.com/for...html#post87929)

So I guess I get to treat myself a bit more for now! muahahaha!

[Miranda]

STOP IT RIGHT THERE! I read that too, but if you're serious about losing this weight, you need to make sure you eat quality calories! That means, your calories should be heavy in fiber, protein, or both! Then, and only then, if you're a good boy, can you have a tiny treat!

Okay, I'm going out of mom mode now! (By the way, don't even look at what I ate today. Yep, you can call me a hypocrite now! )

[Traino]

STOP IT RIGHT THERE! I read that too, but if you're serious about losing this weight, you need to make sure you eat quality calories! That means, your calories should be heavy in fiber, protein, or both! Then, and only then, if you're a good boy, can you have a tiny treat!

Okay, I'm going out of mom mode now! (By the way, don't even look at what I ate today. Yep, you can call me a hypocrite now! )

Thankfully I'm a meat lover right here so meat is a treat to me . But yeahhhhhh I shouldn't go too crazyyyyy I know! (<3)

[Traino]

Exercise:

10 mins on the bike
3 gym rounds

Food intake:

Bowl of Oats (with a scoop-o-protein!) 430ish cal, 31.4 pro.
Foot long roast beef sub (double meat/wheat bread) 1238 cal, 82.4 pro.
2 scoop Protein shake (banana flavor in skim milk) 413 cal, 65 pro.
1 chicken breast 4 eggs (fried) 557 cal, 43.4 pro.


Total: = 2638ish
Protein: = 222.2ish

Summary: Pretty normal day. get up eat ma oats (with a scoop-o-protein now!) go to gym get a good solid workout. Come home do some research on anything that came to mind that day. Check emails reply to any blog stuff figure out dinner. Eat dinner and here I am somewhat uneventful day tbh. I think ill be going back to the pool tomorrow.

As for my meals I wanted to try the oatmeal protein deal and for the most part its nice (Though the texture of cold oatmeal kinda freaks me out so I'm not sure about that) normal after workout sub. When I got home I read my forum reply's and OD had done a breakdown for me (TY ) and concluded that I should be eating a bit more 2500ish cal minimum and more protein up to 200g. So I did a little last minute diet fiddling to try balence that out with dinner and came pretty close.

On to another day!

[Traino]

Exercise:

10 mins on the bike
3 gym rounds
1 hour screwing around in the pool
1 hour doing lengths at the pool

Food intake:

2 Grilled cheese sandwiches 622 cal, 20 pro.
Foot long roast beef sub (double meat/wheat bread) 1238 cal, 82.4 pro.
2 scoop Protein shake (banana flavor in skim milk) 413 cal, 65 pro.
chilli chicken salad (celery! + chicken) 322 cal, 57.6 pro.


Total: = 2595ish
Protein: = 225ish

Summary: Tiiiired! D: Long day. Swimming is a lot harder than I expected and I felt like flopping down and going to sleep when I got home.

Eating wise I was late waking up so I stole my mothers breakfast on the way out (HA!) and had a good morning at the gym then walked a few blocks down to the pool. Had a little fun in the water then got down to business. Settled on backstroke (though I kinda view that as a cop-out D and did a good set of lane swimming.Ran out of carrots so its was celery and chicken only tonight.

Overall I felt bad about the grilled cheese but when I crunched the numbers later tonight It wasn't that bad. Although that puts me as carb heavy again today . So no more of that!

[d_tox]

would you be game to bring your intake down to the 1500 level?

remember that fat is 3500 calories a pound.... at an intake of 2000-2300, it's gonna be a long one.... so why not tap into some more of your reserves?


if your metabolism to hold a steady weight is say, 2500 calories, and you are on a 2000 calorie diet, it will take 7 days to burn off 1 pound. if you went on 1500 calories a day, then you can expect 2 pounds a week.... long term average of course.

[Traino]

would you be game to bring your intake down to the 1500 level?

remember that fat is 3500 calories a pound.... at an intake of 2000-2300, it's gonna be a long one.... so why not tap into some more of your reserves?


if your metabolism to hold a steady weight is say, 2500 calories, and you are on a 2000 calorie diet, it will take 7 days to burn off 1 pound. if you went on 1500 calories a day, then you can expect 2 pounds a week.... long term average of course.

I would be very game, In fact if I hadn't been told otherwise id still be shooting for that number. However when OD crunched the numbers apprently due to my rather huge weight atm any less than 2.5kish risks putting me into "starvation mode" and would be counter productive.

You can read the post here (http://www.obesitydiscussion.com/for...html#post87016)