Obesity Discussion Forums

[BiggerFatterBlog]

I hope everyone on this site reaches their goal but unfortunately most of you probably won't. Like all other dieters you will beat yourself up and feel like crap about it only to repeat the cycle. If you get to the point where you get tired of letting yourself down stop by my blog, biggerfatterblog and learn how to accept yourself for the way you are. Google it!

Like all of you I too am a glutton. The difference is I don't feel badly about it. As the driving force in the new fat acceptance movement we not only accept our size but we also do not apologize for our gluttonous and slothful lifestyle and neither should any of you. Again, I wish you everyone of all the success in the world with overcoming your gluttony but we at BFB actively and unashamedy promote gluttony and the fat person's lifestyle.


Well, I hope this has cleared up any misconceptions you may have had about gluttony and diets. And remember: 'Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Chardonnay in one hand - chocolate in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO, What a Ride'

Stop by and say hi.

[chubbymommaNdallas]

BiggerFatter, I accepted myself a long time ago--moles, hairy warts, and yes fat, too. What I haven't accepted is not being able to play with my children the way any mother should. I haven't accepted the possibility of them getting teased because their mom is so fat. Kids have enough to deal with already. I haven't accepted increasing the chances of becoming diabetic and losing limbs, having a heart attack and dying in front of my family or having a stroke and becoming a burden financially and physically to those around me. I haven't accepted being denied life insurance because I am so morbidly obese.

This struggle goes way beyond me simply accepting myself.

15 pounds to goal weight.

[BiggerFatterBlog]

I applaud your efforts and success but I sense some fat hatred and self hatred. Unlike other fat acceptance orgs Bigger Fatter Blog is not anti-diet. Unlike current fat acceptance we don't make excuses for being fat. We are fat for the same reason most Americans are fat. We are gluttons. We promote gluttony and the gluttonous lazy lifestyle of most Americans.

I wish you continued success. If you would like to make your feeling known and our blog feel free to post a comment for our readers.

[chubbymommaNdallas]

Fat-hatred or self-hatred? After rereading my own post I just don't see it. Perhaps a case of Jahari's window. IDK.

Thank you for the invitation to post to your blog. Given what's at stake however, I probably won't be looking to join anytime soon.

Best of luck to you as well.

[Steve]

You're making the broad assumption that all fat people are gluttons and all gluttons will fail at changing lifestyle habits.

Experience says you're wrong.

[danieller]

I don't know why this thread is still open. Why is someone in here encouraging others to fail on their life style change? Shouldn't this forum be about helping those that are finding it tough to stay on track instead of encouraging them to give up on their goals? Thats great that BiggerFatter is comfortable the way he is, great for him, but why should he be here putting ideas into people's heads? I personally love my new lifestyle, sure sometimes I miss the "bad" food and don't want to work out, but it isn't always about doing what you want, it is about doing what your body needs you to.

Geesh..this guy erks me!

[BiggerFatterBlog]

Originally Posted by Steve

You're making the broad assumption that all fat people are gluttons and all gluttons will fail at changing lifestyle habits.

Experience says you're wrong.

The 2nd law of thermodynamic and conservation of mass prove with scientific certainty I am right. If a man eat 2500 cals per day every day and is a couch potato the most weight he can maintain is 160. In a woman eats 2000 a day the most she can maintain is 140. That is a scientific certainty.

30 years ago only about 3% of Americans were obese. Today 34% are obese. They are not obese because they can't eat moderately. If they wanted to they would. If a person is fat they are a glutton. Gluttony is good. Gluttony is normal. Starvation is abnormal.

[BiggerFatterBlog]

Originally Posted by danieller

I don't know why this thread is still open. Why is someone in here encouraging others to fail on their life style change? Shouldn't this forum be about helping those that are finding it tough to stay on track instead of encouraging them to give up on their goals? Thats great that BiggerFatter is comfortable the way he is, great for him, but why should he be here putting ideas into people's heads? I personally love my new lifestyle, sure sometimes I miss the "bad" food and don't want to work out, but it isn't always about doing what you want, it is about doing what your body needs you to.

Geesh..this guy erks me!

If you are happy good for you but I don't believe it. When you end this charade.

There is a myth that fat people have low self esteem. That has been proven false. The opposite is true.

Bigger Fatter Blog: Fat People Have High Self Esteem No Thanks to Fat Acceptance

Fat People Have High Self Esteem No Thanks to Fat Acceptance




Sistas doin it for themselves!

[chubbymommaNdallas]

You are right. They all look very happy sitting there don't they?

Danieller, keep up the great work! I bet you look and feel fantastic. 12.5 pounds to goal for me!

[Steve]

Originally Posted by BiggerFatterBlog

The 2nd law of thermodynamic and conservation of mass prove with scientific certainty I am right. If a man eat 2500 cals per day every day and is a couch potato the most weight he can maintain is 160. In a woman eats 2000 a day the most she can maintain is 140. That is a scientific certainty.

Aren't you a bright on, lol.

And this quote has exactly what to do with your assumption that all fat people are gluttons who will never change their lifestyle habits?

[bonbonberry]

I agree with BiggerFatterBlog actually, but not fully. He talks as if he knows it all though making him seem stupid. But yes it is true most Americans are fat because of their overeating and lazyness. For females though its different seeing that they have estrogen (increases fat cells) and after pregnancy issues. There are many other factors to being overweight rather than gluttony. Also if you have a slower metabolism (usually when you lack muscle) that can make you overweight even if you have good eating habits.

to conclude my thoughtttt.... biggerfatterblog is right in many ways but not someone you have to listen to seeing that He is not every single overweight person in the world thus he fails to see each individuals problem.

thats great you want to help people accept their fatness but it really shouldn't be accepted (IF YOU ARE GETTING FAT THROUGH LAZINESS AND OVEREATING THAT IS), i mean it's terrible for your health for one, and the extra food thats making you overweight can be going to a starving person who cant even afford food, and just many other reasons. biggerfatterblog you're really an idiot for accepting yourself. Sounds very blunt and rude to say but its true. Why do you want to be overweight? thats just stupid, unless of course sitting at home all day is what makes you happy then maybe its not stupid. many people on this forum can reach their goal it seems like, or atleast get close so why can't you? dont make mindless blogs accepting gluttony

[Obesity Discussion]

Wow, I don't know how I missed this. I think we have a troll in our midst.

[SentinelBasch]

You've gotta be kidding me!

How interesting to see BFB over here as well. He and I had a debate on another weight loss site. I feel bad for him, but I have my suspicions as to whether or not he is who he says he is.

Anyway, I see that he's gone now, but I still can't resist commenting on his own interpretation of thermodynamics, since he made it a point to make it sound so legitimate. I'll post the same response to that argument here that I did on CPH:

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There was a study done titled "Serotonin Regulates C. elegans Fat and Feeding Through Independent Molecular Mechanisms," summarized as follows:

We investigated serotonin signaling in C. elegans as a paradigm for neural regulation of energy balance and found that serotonergic regulation of fat is molecularly distinct from feeding regulation. Serotonergic feeding regulation is mediated by receptors whose functions are not required for fat regulation. Serotonergic fat regulation is dependent on a neurally expressed channel and a GPCR that initiate signaling cascades which ultimately promote lipid breakdown at peripheral sites of fat storage. In turn, intermediates of lipid metabolism generated in the periphery modulate feeding behavior. These findings suggest that, as in mammals, C. elegans feeding behavior is regulated by extrinsic and intrinsic cues. Moreover, obesity and thinness are not solely determined by feeding behavior. Rather, feeding behavior and fat metabolism are coordinated but independent responses of the nervous system to the perception of nutrient availability.

If you have not done research on serotonin, it might be prudent for you to do so, seeing as how it is a critical factor in weight regulation. The BMR that you rely so heavily on is a useful tool, but is merely an estimate. It does not factor in bone structure, muscle mass, and perhaps one of the most important factors of all - genetics.

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Of course, I'm not discounting food intake - it's a critical component. Still, it's only one factor of many.

[matt007]

Originally Posted by BiggerFatterBlog

The 2nd law of thermodynamic and conservation of mass prove with scientific certainty I am right. If a man eat 2500 cals per day every day and is a couch potato the most weight he can maintain is 160. In a woman eats 2000 a day the most she can maintain is 140. That is a scientific certainty.

30 years ago only about 3% of Americans were obese. Today 34% are obese. They are not obese because they can't eat moderately. If they wanted to they would. If a person is fat they are a glutton. Gluttony is good. Gluttony is normal. Starvation is abnormal.

I'm so sad CG Brady's posts were deleted. If I remember right he used this exact quote. I remember he said basically the same thing. Funny because when he posted this blogsite as his arch nemesis 3 or 4 different times I was pretty sure he was just spamming the site. Interesting to see someone using the same trolling shtick almost a year apart.

[Shnookums]

wow

[AlexC]

/Troll.

[monique]

Huh, I have totally experienced gaining weight on 2000 calories a day and I'm 323 pounds. CGBrady and others have doubted my honesty but there is simply no one-size-fits-all law of metabolism, honestly I think it's silly to try to find one. We KNOW there are people surviving in the world on only a cup of rice per day. It's sad but true. The human body is a remarkable and adaptable machine and no two are exactly the same.

Anyway I've gone back to 1800 calories, a compromise between my pre-pregnancy calories and what I've read is needed to maintain during pregnancy. Turns out the 2000-2300 estimate didn't work for me and my doctor said there's no reason I need to gain until the second trimester. I trust my body more than charts, and I can see when it's getting lighter or heavier and how much I'm eating for it to do so. I think figuring out how much you eat and watching how it affects losses or gains is the best way to figure out your individual calorie needs. The charts and calculations are just a starting point.

I think it *is* important to accept yourself for who you are and learn to see yourself as okay whether you're a compulsive overeater or not. But recognizing and accepting yourself with flaws and learning to love yourself despite your flaws isn't the same as refusing to change. I don't hate myself for having too many calories when I don't keep track, but I also don't feel the need to revel in overeating. Don't worry SB, you can learn to find middle ground through trial and error!

~Monique