Obesity Discussion Forums

[ccwilloe]

Think again...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHcyAH0rOPE

YouTube - Milk The Deadly Poison WATCH THIS!!!

[William Wallace]

[Obesity Discussion]

Wow!!! I learn something new every day!!

[MikeB]

Please don't tell me that you guys are really believing that milk is bad for you.

[ccwilloe]

my kiddo's in 6'th grade and he just turned 12.
he won't drink water unless it's the only thing left. he drinks milk - and lots of it...
along with a diet high in carbs and sugar. he probably drinks a gallon in 2 days...

having said that, over the past 6 or so years, i have watched him go from husky to obese.... he's 5'6" and weighs 200.

while over the same time frame, i have watched him develop asthsma and skin itching problems to a higher and higher degree.

i'm unable to convince my wife, who does all the grocery shopping cuz i'm at work, that his diet might be the source of his health problems. she likes to just pump antihistimines down him and supress the problem. all of her faith is in doctors - who have failed to get to the root of my kids problems.

me thinks it's diet - and it makes sense that having too much milk (and sugar) plays a major role.... i just don't have any hard proof.

[Chrisydj]

Maybe you could go to skim milk if he is drinking whole milk. My kids love milk too but I stopped buying the whole milk when they were about 6 and 7 and switched to skim milk or 1% milk. It is lower in fat and I think it tastes just as good as whole milk, although some people think it tastes like watered down milk.

[ccwilloe]

well, that's what we have ...
- but 1.5 gallon every 2 days on average???
- and does not drink water but drinks milk instead to quench his thirst?????

(me thinks something's out of whack)

[Chrisydj]

um...stop buying milk as often then. to much of anything isnt a good thing. if my kids drink all the milk i'll wait a day or so before i buy more and the next gallon or 2 seems to last longer

[milfredo]

It's interesting we are the only creatures that past the infant stage drinks milk, and milk from another species at that. I happen to have sleep apnea and have to sleep with a breathing machine that requires I breathe through my nose. I used to be a big milk drinker. I was always congested at night and had trouble breathing even with my machine.
I quit drinking milk a month ago and haven't been congested at night since. The mucos level in my system has dropped significantly. I don't claim to be an expert, I just know the effect it has had on me once I quit drinking milk.

[1sttimemum]

that is because if you have sleep apnea YOUR NOT SUPPOSE TO EAT DIARY BECUASE IT CAN CAUSE AN INCREASE OF MUCUS i cant believe your doctor didnt tell you that

Originally Posted by milfredo

It's interesting we are the only creatures that past the infant stage drinks milk, and milk from another species at that. I happen to have sleep apnea and have to sleep with a breathing machine that requires I breathe through my nose. I used to be a big milk drinker. I was always congested at night and had trouble breathing even with my machine.
I quit drinking milk a month ago and haven't been congested at night since. The mucos level in my system has dropped significantly. I don't claim to be an expert, I just know the effect it has had on me once I quit drinking milk.

[milfredo]

Here's the problem. Medical care is not what it used to be. Doctors are so into specialization these days, that they're so myopic they only seem to see one tiny section of your body. They no longer look at you as a whole. I have been through the medical machine the last 5 years starting off with Congestive Heart Failure and ending up with Cardiomyopathy. I now have a significant part of my heart that is mechanical...so much so that I tick like a timex watch.
When it's quiet and you sit next to me, you can hear it. My point is that I went to see a doctor in the beginning for something, don't even remember now..think it was throat problem or something, I was examined and sent home with a good bill of health. When in all reality I was suffering the onset of CHF.
My ankles were so swolen and I was litterally drowning in my own juices you might say. A few days later, in the hospital nearly dead. Oh I remember..I was taking a thorough medical exam for my bi-yearly physical since I was licensed to carry extremely hazadous chemicals over the highway.
At one time this last couple of years I had as many as 8 doctors tending to me for various conditions, all at the same time. That's crazy, but that is the way things are these days. I dare you to find me an average MD that knows squat about nutrition.

Anyway...I'll get off my soapbox now.

Just glad to be alive.
Milfredo

[Chrisydj]

I actually found a doctor that listens to what i say and doesnt just treat the symptom but he will spend as much time as it takes to find the actual problems. The only thing he sent me to see another doc over was my female issues i was having at the time. and he treated my kids too. He was the best doctor I've ever had. He was a pharmasist (sp) before he was a doctor.

[1sttimemum]

okay i know a few great doctors one of which is my mothers who happens to have the health problems plus some and he has brought my mum along way she is doing so much better i only wish my dad had met this doctor he too had the same problems but sadly we lost him last july may he rest in peace he was only 59 the sadest part is he missed my daughter by one month he died on the 7th of july she was born on the 7th of aug so this year has been one hell of a rollcoaster but anyways would love to refer him to you but there is only one problem you would have to move to canada lol

Originally Posted by milfredo

Here's the problem. Medical care is not what it used to be. Doctors are so into specialization these days, that they're so myopic they only seem to see one tiny section of your body. They no longer look at you as a whole. I have been through the medical machine the last 5 years starting off with Congestive Heart Failure and ending up with Cardiomyopathy. I now have a significant part of my heart that is mechanical...so much so that I tick like a timex watch.
When it's quiet and you sit next to me, you can hear it. My point is that I went to see a doctor in the beginning for something, don't even remember now..think it was throat problem or something, I was examined and sent home with a good bill of health. When in all reality I was suffering the onset of CHF.
My ankles were so swolen and I was litterally drowning in my own juices you might say. A few days later, in the hospital nearly dead. Oh I remember..I was taking a thorough medical exam for my bi-yearly physical since I was licensed to carry extremely hazadous chemicals over the highway.
At one time this last couple of years I had as many as 8 doctors tending to me for various conditions, all at the same time. That's crazy, but that is the way things are these days. I dare you to find me an average MD that knows squat about nutrition.

Anyway...I'll get off my soapbox now.

Just glad to be alive.
Milfredo

[1sttimemum]

okay i know a few great doctors one of which is my mothers who happens to have the same health problems plus some and he has brought my mum along way she is doing so much better i only wish my dad had met this doctor he too had the same problems but sadly we lost him last july may he rest in peace he was only 59 the sadest part is he missed my daughter by one month he died on the 7th of july she was born on the 7th of aug so this year has been one hell of a rollcoaster but anyways would love to refer him to you but there is only one problem you would have to move to canada lol

Originally Posted by milfredo

Here's the problem. Medical care is not what it used to be. Doctors are so into specialization these days, that they're so myopic they only seem to see one tiny section of your body. They no longer look at you as a whole. I have been through the medical machine the last 5 years starting off with Congestive Heart Failure and ending up with Cardiomyopathy. I now have a significant part of my heart that is mechanical...so much so that I tick like a timex watch.
When it's quiet and you sit next to me, you can hear it. My point is that I went to see a doctor in the beginning for something, don't even remember now..think it was throat problem or something, I was examined and sent home with a good bill of health. When in all reality I was suffering the onset of CHF.
My ankles were so swolen and I was litterally drowning in my own juices you might say. A few days later, in the hospital nearly dead. Oh I remember..I was taking a thorough medical exam for my bi-yearly physical since I was licensed to carry extremely hazadous chemicals over the highway.
At one time this last couple of years I had as many as 8 doctors tending to me for various conditions, all at the same time. That's crazy, but that is the way things are these days. I dare you to find me an average MD that knows squat about nutrition.

Anyway...I'll get off my soapbox now.

Just glad to be alive.
Milfredo

[MikeB]

Originally Posted by ccwilloe

my kiddo's in 6'th grade and he just turned 12.
he won't drink water unless it's the only thing left. he drinks milk - and lots of it...
along with a diet high in carbs and sugar. he probably drinks a gallon in 2 days...

having said that, over the past 6 or so years, i have watched him go from husky to obese.... he's 5'6" and weighs 200.

while over the same time frame, i have watched him develop asthsma and skin itching problems to a higher and higher degree.

i'm unable to convince my wife, who does all the grocery shopping cuz i'm at work, that his diet might be the source of his health problems. she likes to just pump antihistimines down him and supress the problem. all of her faith is in doctors - who have failed to get to the root of my kids problems.

me thinks it's diet - and it makes sense that having too much milk (and sugar) plays a major role.... i just don't have any hard proof.

Well here's the problem my son is 13, 5'9" and 195lbs or so. He drinks around 1 gallon of skim milk a day and eats a decent split of carbs/protein/fat most of the time. He also wrestles 10 months out of the year and on average works out at least 1.5 hours a day through the week.
You'd guess he is fat but he's not...
I've attached some pics - he's in blue in these photo's. They're action shots so a bit blurry but you can get the idea of his muscles compared to the 220lb 14 year old he's wrestling (and beating... )
I have to link to the photo's as I couldn't upload them.

[milfredo]

He looks great!

Milfredo

[MikeB]

Thanks, I posted because milk is good for you and is fine if you exercise!!!!

[Twinkle]

Your son looks great! I only have milk on cereal really, but we always have skimmed milk. It's a good source of calcium which you need for healthy bone growth! xxx

[nes2124]

most cow's milk has measurable quantitie of herbicides, peticides, dioxins pus feces, bacteria and viruses. Cows milk can have traces of anthing the cow ate.

[mel]

You know, I wonder who's idea it first was to squeeze a cow's udders and drink the stuff that came out.