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[Peter1948]

Over the last few days I have been looking at the ingredients of many of the foods that people mention on various forums in pursuit of their goal of losing weight.
I have tried several of these processed foods and wonder why anybody would chose them instead of fresh natural foods if they really wanted to lose excess body fat.
Even though the manufacturers of these processed foods claim their food is healthy and great for people who want to lose weight, it seems to me that fresh natural foods are much healthier and more suitable for easily and safely losing excess fat.
These processed foods confuse my understanding of my own body’s real needs. The refined sugars, the artificial sweeteners, the artificial flavourings, preservatives and colourings cause my body to respond in a way that is very different from what the manufacturer seems to be telling me to expect.
No I don’t have more energy, I don’t feel great and that body fat remains instead of melting away like the images of skinny people in their advertising and on the packets would seem to suggest.
My local greengrocer makes no misleading claims about their fresh crisp crunchy juicy refreshing products. I have lots of energy when I enjoy vegetables raw or lightly steamed with grilled fish, skinless chicken breast fillet, game meat or tuna.
The fresh natural products also seem to be better value for the money.

[george131]

I don't have sufficient knowledge as you have required here.

All the best!!!!!


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[Peter1948]

George131 I wonder about that link about acid reflux you placed in your post.
Have you purchased that book?
Was the information in that book useful to you?

I used to suffer severe stomach ache.
My doctor prescribed Nexium and told me that I would probably have to continue taking that for the rest of my life.
I felt shocked to hear that.
I know some other people who are permanently on that or similar medications.
I did not like the idea of continuing on this medication. Nor did I like the cost of it.
I was reading the book "Fit for life" by Harvey Diamond. and he wrote about food combining.
What foods combine well in a meal and what food combinations to avoid.
I followed his recommendations and was able to discontinue taking Nexium and have never again taken medication for stomach pain.
Basically do not eat fruit with any other food types. Do not eat meat with grains or starches - so much for meat and potatoes, steak and chips, fish and chips and all those traditional dishes!
I would not recommend Harvey Diamond's book "Fit for life" as my health suffered as I followed his dietary advice, especially the one of eating only fruit before midday.
I would be more willing to recommend Great Taste No Pain! - A Breakthrough For People With Stomach Problems Who Want Instant Relief Without Drugs, Surgery Or Rabbit Food
I have not purchased her book however I guess it is every bit as good as the free tips she sends.

[William Wallace]

Originally Posted by Peter1948

Over the last few days I have been looking at the ingredients of many of the foods that people mention on various forums in pursuit of their goal of losing weight.
I have tried several of these processed foods and wonder why anybody would chose them instead of fresh natural foods if they really wanted to lose excess body fat.
Even though the manufacturers of these processed foods claim their food is healthy and great for people who want to lose weight, it seems to me that fresh natural foods are much healthier and more suitable for easily and safely losing excess fat.
These processed foods confuse my understanding of my own body’s real needs. The refined sugars, the artificial sweeteners, the artificial flavourings, preservatives and colourings cause my body to respond in a way that is very different from what the manufacturer seems to be telling me to expect.
No I don’t have more energy, I don’t feel great and that body fat remains instead of melting away like the images of skinny people in their advertising and on the packets would seem to suggest.
My local greengrocer makes no misleading claims about their fresh crisp crunchy juicy refreshing products. I have lots of energy when I enjoy vegetables raw or lightly steamed with grilled fish, skinless chicken breast fillet, game meat or tuna.
The fresh natural products also seem to be better value for the money.

See the natural products in my opinion tend to cost more, and that is a big deterrant, especially in a worsening economy like this one.

[Peter1948]

I live in Melbourne, Australia and like to minimize the cost of my food.
Pies may seem cheap at $3.19 for 6 pies (900 grams) however cabbages which weigh more than 2 kilograms are sometimes $2. I often buy fish at the market for $4 per kilogram. Broccoli is often on special for less than $2 per kilogram, Carrots sometimes $1 per kilogram. Potatoes often $2 for 3 kilograms. I am enjoying a very big ripe avocado which was 90 cents.
While skinless chicken breast fillet is usually above $10 per kilogram, in Australia kangaroo mince is available for $7 per kilogram. Kangaroo is a game meat and has almost no fat.
Many vegetables are often available at lower prices in peak season, when their nutritional properties are best. I usually find fruit expensive and I buy it only when its price is low. I don't think fruit is as important as vegetables.
Sure it does take some time and effort to find lower prices, however I find it makes a huge difference to the cost.
I wonder how prices here compare with the prices in other countries.

[healthyz]

I look at the calories on food labels. I also eat sensibly. I think we all know what foods we shouldn't be eating, but we end up eating them anyway. Just stick with the whole grains, and stay away from the bad starch foods. Also, don't skip breakfast, that's an important meal.

[Peter1948]

I find it is not only the calories on the food labels. It is also the sweeteners, the flavourings, the preservatives and colourings that tend to confuse our understanding of our body's needs. When I try some of these processed foods instead of the fresh natural foods that I enjoy when I want to lose weight, I think I can really understand one of the reasons why so many people are having such great difficulty losing excess body fat. Some of those processed foods seem almost addictive.
I certainly did not know what foods that were making it difficult for me to lose weight. It has taken me many years to learn the truth and discover where to get correct information. I think most people are misinformed. I certainly was and I know that I still have much more to learn.
I have the self discipline to stick to my choices so I don't eat those foods that I plan to avoid. Yet by designing an eating plan that suits your own needs, your desires, your lifestyle and your preferences you will lose the weight you want to lose without having to rely so much on self discipline.
While whole grains are likely to be a better choice than refined grains, many people would lose weight more healthily, easily and quickly by reducing the amount of grains and increasing the amount of fresh green vegetables.
I guess that if farm animals fatten more when fed grains than when grazing, maybe humans do too.
I totally agree that breakfast is an important meal.

[Twinkle]

In England at the moment fruit and veg are cheaper than they have been as most supermarkets are cutting the prices to encourage people to eat more healthily. I know strawberries are good for weightloss, fish ( non oily of course) is also good as well as lean chicken. I think you have to be prepared to spend what it takes to eat healthily rather than using it as an excuse to not buy healthy foods. Shop around too - sometimes you will need to go to a couple of shops to find what you are looking for xxxx

[SheaGrl]

When I was in Australia I was always impressed with the restaurants that catered to eating more healthy, nutritional foods. They also had 5 times the amount of vegetarian/vegan restaurants than we have here in the US. I never made it melbourne though I started in Sydney and headed north.

[Twinkle]

Restaurants are good here in the UK too - most have a lighter or healthier option section on their menu xxx

[skinnybitch]

If you believe everything your doctor said, you are committing suicide.
Go see a Chinese herbalist, a credited herbalist can be of much help than a doctor educated by the western medical system only.
I am living proof, I had stomach ulcers and cured by my Chinese doctor, see details of my other post.
No bullshit here, not trying to sell you anything, just very concerned about that suggestion.
My auntie has diabetes, the demon doctor asked her to do spine puncture, she put aside most of the tablets the doctors prescribed and never did the horrible spine puncuture according to the devil.
She is getting better by continuous exercise and I also recommended some Chinese herbs for her regular taken. Plus some other stuff I recommended to her and she found effective.
One more thing, to add value to this post, cancer cells can not survive in alkaline environment, and most meat are acid. So even I don't really know the details of what the person replied you earlier on talked about, I can tell flush acid does make some sense.
That's why go vegetarian is good for a person's health, or even semi vegetarian.
Soy food can also change the body's constitution, and make losing fat easier.
These are the secrets largely unknown to the western world.
My best

[Juddan]

Peter, you have got it down right! :-)
As a nutritionist, I would recommend fresh, crunchy, natural foods over ANYTHING else. In the end, that IS what you are going to be eating long term, and not any artificial products.
One has to remember that the weight loss industry is HUGE, and there is massive money in it, hence the many products.

[Jilly Bean]

I think fish is a great food for weight loss... I also think its possible to eat out healthy

[SunShine]

I think fish is a great food for weight loss... I also think its possible to eat out healthy

Fish is a great food to eat while dieting. You can grill it, bake it but not fried. And you can make it and season it in so many ways to to make each dish taste different.

Yes,, and you can eat healthy and lose weight to while dining out if you make good food choices.

[Obesity Discussion]

Originally Posted by Jilly Bean

I think fish is a great food for weight loss... I also think its possible to eat out healthy

Absolutely,....you just need to do your research ahead of time if there's an available online menu, but if that's not available, common sense should take over. You just need to know that most places serve well over a serving of everything, the sauces/dressings are loaded with calories, and they love to use butter.

[patioquero]

Look at the food labels and try to avoid fat and sugar. Don't eat too much pork or beef. With fruits and vegetables you actually can't go wrong. You can cook a lot with vegetables, just get some vegan cookbooks.

[Obesity Discussion]

Originally Posted by patioquero

Look at the food labels and try to avoid fat and sugar. Don't eat too much pork or beef. With fruits and vegetables you actually can't go wrong. You can cook a lot with vegetables, just get some vegan cookbooks.

Very important to look at the labels like you said! Though I will add that fruit should be eaten, but in moderation, and a little unsaturated fats here and there isn't a bad thing either!

Veggies are great though. I need to do a better job eating those myself.

[healthydaddy]

Wow, you guys are really great! this forum will definitely help me with my weight loss journey! lol

[SunShine]

Sorry I have not posted lately but with all the Holidays and I have also been sick to. I had some back surgery and then a infection set in it ..Was in the hospital for twelve days and then when I got home I had to have some home health care so I have been just trying to recover from it all. But am feeling better now, just stay tired alot.

My weight is doing ok, down a few more pounds but I have to admit I did eat some sweets at Christmas time. But am now getting back on track. I have worked to hard to gain it back. It means alot to me to have lost this weight. I still have a way to go to meet my goal but I am doing it one day at a time.

Will try to be here more often.

[Fluffymomma]

Hi Sunshine! It has been a while. Sorry to hear about your hospital stay though...You are almost at your goal though. That's pretty awesome.