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figured here would be a good place to document my success or failure with this.


I have always been a skinny guy...all through high school I was 5'9 130 lbs and really low body fat. I am now 22 (almost 23) and am 5'9 178 lbs....this really just snuck up on me in the past year, so I have a little spare tire. Around thanksgiving time I started hitting the gym with a crappy routine and mild cardio to try and burn weight but I wasn't seeing any gains or improvement. Around the new year I started getting mroe serious with the gym and more serious on the cardio and still not seeing any weight come off or lose the gut. I do feel better and have more energy and have started making gains in strength and size in my shoulders, chest and arms..

Jump start to last week, on the reccomendation of a few people on LS2.com I decided to do this popular stack that seems to be safe and worked well for others.

I purchased:

Glucorell-R
Sesapure
Yohimburn topical
Pure Cee Creatine
Thermorexin
Maximum protein brand whey protein

I started with the supplements yesterday and have now been to the gym twice with them. It may be in my head or it may be real but I feel I am lifting harder and have more energy not only at the gym but throughout the day. The only drawback so far is I have trouble sleeping (took one of the pills too close to bedtime) and I find myself getting dehydrated quickly so I carry water everywhere I go and drink a ton of it.

I am thinking I will update this thread daily if I have the time and weekly with pictures.

First pic:

Day 1 on the supplements, after a workout but I had 2 bottles of water and a protein drink my my stomach...








and for reference here is what I looked like when I was 18 and lean

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oh and for my workout I typically go to the gym 5 days a week and alternate with something similar to this

monday - chest (bench, decline bench, incline dumbell fly's, and regular fly's) 15-30 minutes cardio

Tuesday - Tri's and bi's (dumbell curls, curls on the machine, tricep pushdown on the machine, skull crushers, kickbacks) 15-30 cardio

Wednesday - shoulders and back (military press, lat pulldown, mid row, dumbell row, a couple other random exercises the names of which I cannot remember...) 15-30 cardio

Thurs - repeat from monday

friday - repeat form tues...

I miss some days and whatnots but thats my basic routine.

If anyone has any questions or comments or how I can do things better it would be greatly appreciated. I am still a rookie and don't profess to know much about working out so I will take any constructive criticisms and hopefully be able to post up legitimate photo results to hopefully help other people with a program...

[William Wallace]

Originally Posted by Collin

oh and for my workout I typically go to the gym 5 days a week and alternate with something similar to this

monday - chest (bench, decline bench, incline dumbell fly's, and regular fly's) 15-30 minutes cardio

Tuesday - Tri's and bi's (dumbell curls, curls on the machine, tricep pushdown on the machine, skull crushers, kickbacks) 15-30 cardio

Wednesday - shoulders and back (military press, lat pulldown, mid row, dumbell row, a couple other random exercises the names of which I cannot remember...) 15-30 cardio

Thurs - repeat from monday

friday - repeat form tues...

I miss some days and whatnots but thats my basic routine.

If anyone has any questions or comments or how I can do things better it would be greatly appreciated. I am still a rookie and don't profess to know much about working out so I will take any constructive criticisms and hopefully be able to post up legitimate photo results to hopefully help other people with a program...

First off, welcome to the site

My only questions for your workout routine, are why do you not do legs or abs? Your legs are some of your biggest muscles, and since each pound of muscle you add burns an extra 50 calories a day at rest, well, you get the idea.

I also didn't see any forearm exercises which will help you out in the long run, because as you get stronger, your need to have a better grip to hold the heavier weights increases as well!

Regarding your cardio, I would recommend doing a minimum of 20 minutes for health reasons, because you do not receive the cardiovascular benefits until after you have hit the 20 minute mark.

[William Wallace]

Originally Posted by Collin

I decided to do this popular stack that seems to be safe and worked well for others.

I purchased:

Glucorell-R
Sesapure
Yohimburn topical
Pure Cee Creatine
Thermorexin
Maximum protein brand whey protein

I started with the supplements yesterday and have now been to the gym twice with them. It may be in my head or it may be real but I feel I am lifting harder and have more energy not only at the gym but throughout the day. The only drawback so far is I have trouble sleeping (took one of the pills too close to bedtime) and I find myself getting dehydrated quickly so I carry water everywhere I go and drink a ton of it.

Ah yes, the ol' AF store stack

I am surprise you did not get the Levarox as well, as it works hand in hand with Thermorexin. T-rex has a lot of caffeine in it, so do not take it anywhere near bedtime, and make sure to take it with a lot of food. Also, make sure you drink TONS of water. I think you already figured this out.

I have heard some success stories, and some "I didn't notice a difference stories," but hopefully yours will be the former. Please do keep us posted on strength gains and pics! Each member has a photo album feature (where it says VB Image Host) on the top of the page.

Whatever you do, since you are lifting weights and adding muscle, do not use the scale as your only guide to how successful your program is. Since muscle weighs more than fat, you may not be losing as much weight on the scale as you had hoped, but ideally you will have lost a lot of body fat. You will be able to tell the way your clothes fit, and how you look in a mirror.

[Collin]

Originally Posted by William Wallace

First off, welcome to the site

My only questions for your workout routine, are why do you not do legs or abs? Your legs are some of your biggest muscles, and since each pound of muscle you add burns an extra 50 calories a day at rest, well, you get the idea.

I also didn't see any forearm exercises which will help you out in the long run, because as you get stronger, your need to have a better grip to hold the heavier weights increases as well!

Regarding your cardio, I would recommend doing a minimum of 20 minutes for health reasons, because you do not receive the cardiovascular benefits until after you have hit the 20 minute mark.

as far as the abs, I squeeze those in usually when I get home formt he gym, I hate doing crunches ont he floor of the gym and I don't like doing weighted abs. I have been told that weighted abs will push them out a bit and I want the flat stomach.

Cardio - I usually try and go for as long as I can but i have a lot of time constraints for work and such but I will try and get a full 30 minutes as much as I can.

Forearms...they kind of indirectly get worked when you do a ot of other exercises such as the tricep push down, mid rox ect....I should however mix in some exercises that will focus on the forearms.

thanks for you input

[Collin]

Originally Posted by William Wallace

Ah yes, the ol' AF store stack

I am surprise you did not get the Levarox as well, as it works hand in hand with Thermorexin. T-rex has a lot of caffeine in it, so do not take it anywhere near bedtime, and make sure to take it with a lot of food. Also, make sure you drink TONS of water. I think you already figured this out.

I have heard some success stories, and some "I didn't notice a difference stories," but hopefully yours will be the former. Please do keep us posted on strength gains and pics! Each member has a photo album feature (where it says VB Image Host) on the top of the page.

Whatever you do, since you are lifting weights and adding muscle, do not use the scale as your only guide to how successful your program is. Since muscle weighs more than fat, you may not be losing as much weight on the scale as you had hoped, but ideally you will have lost a lot of body fat. You will be able to tell the way your clothes fit, and how you look in a mirror.

for the AF store stack...and only being on it 2 days I feel more energetic so hopefully i can get something out of it. I may give the levorex a try next time around, we'll see how this works for now.

I try not to use the scale as a measuring tool. I'm not really out to lose weight persay but maintain my weight and make it muscle weight.

[Obesity Discussion]

Originally Posted by Collin

oh and for my workout I typically go to the gym 5 days a week and alternate with something similar to this

monday - chest (bench, decline bench, incline dumbell fly's, and regular fly's) 15-30 minutes cardio

Tuesday - Tri's and bi's (dumbell curls, curls on the machine, tricep pushdown on the machine, skull crushers, kickbacks) 15-30 cardio

Wednesday - shoulders and back (military press, lat pulldown, mid row, dumbell row, a couple other random exercises the names of which I cannot remember...) 15-30 cardio

Thurs - repeat from monday

friday - repeat form tues...

I miss some days and whatnots but thats my basic routine.

If anyone has any questions or comments or how I can do things better it would be greatly appreciated. I am still a rookie and don't profess to know much about working out so I will take any constructive criticisms and hopefully be able to post up legitimate photo results to hopefully help other people with a program...

Hi Collin! Welcome!

Routine looks good....I would say to make sure after a month or two you switch up the exercises you do. You may notice is that since you are blasting your triceps and biceps on Tuesdays, doing shoulder and back the very next day may be a little tough. If your triceps are sore the next day, doing shoulders (especially Military press) is going to be a little harder than normal, and the same goes with all the back exercises since they incorporate your biceps which were blasted the day before.

Are you lucky enough to have a partner to go with? That always helps me squeeze out an extra rep or two . I too was surprised to see no legs.

Please keep us update with your routine, and we'd love to hear details like how much you lifted, sets, reps, etc.

As William mentioned, you can post all the pics you want here in your thread as well as in our photo album feature where you can upload your pics there, and we host them for free so you can post them other places if need be.

[Collin]

thanks, I'll keep you guys updated..

Unfortunately I rarely have a gym partner

I recover pretty well so I can usually hit the shoulders and back the next day without issue...and the time frame of what days I do what is all subject to change because of work so it isn't always back to back.

[Obesity Discussion]

Originally Posted by Collin

figured here would be a good place to document my success or failure with this.


I have always been a skinny guy...all through high school I was 5'9 130 lbs and really low body fat. I am now 22 (almost 23) and am 5'9 178 lbs....this really just snuck up on me in the past year, so I have a little spare tire. Around thanksgiving time I started hitting the gym with a crappy routine and mild cardio to try and burn weight but I wasn't seeing any gains or improvement. Around the new year I started getting mroe serious with the gym and more serious on the cardio and still not seeing any weight come off or lose the gut. I do feel better and have more energy and have started making gains in strength and size in my shoulders, chest and arms..

Jump start to last week, on the reccomendation of a few people on LS2.com I decided to do this popular stack that seems to be safe and worked well for others.

I purchased:

Glucorell-R
Sesapure
Yohimburn topical
Pure Cee Creatine
Thermorexin
Maximum protein brand whey protein

I started with the supplements yesterday and have now been to the gym twice with them. It may be in my head or it may be real but I feel I am lifting harder and have more energy not only at the gym but throughout the day. The only drawback so far is I have trouble sleeping (took one of the pills too close to bedtime) and I find myself getting dehydrated quickly so I carry water everywhere I go and drink a ton of it.

I am thinking I will update this thread daily if I have the time and weekly with pictures.

First pic:

Day 1 on the supplements, after a workout but I had 2 bottles of water and a protein drink my my stomach...








and for reference here is what I looked like when I was 18 and lean

Something to keep in mind, is that a lot of these changes take time. Most people don't see any results in their first few weeks, and if you are doing mild exercise, your results will be, well, mild.

Most important question is, how is your diet? That's half the battle right there.

It's great you are addressing your little tire right now, instead of later, because belly fat is the worst kind of fat to have...(we have numerous studies posted here on belly fat and cardiovascular disease).

If you work out too close to bedtime that may make it harder to pass out for the night.

Lastly, make sure you get plenty of sleep. If you're not getting 8 hours, you are missing out on not only potential muscle growth, but fat loss as well.

I definitely approve of your supplement choices.


Good luck and keep us posted!



P.S., I'm going to move this to the blog section, where we encourage all our members to keep their logs of their progress.

[Collin]

thanks, didn't know there was a blog section.

Diet is good...well its ok but getting better. I cut out soda and sweets, eating a lot of lean meat, no fast food, smaller portions and 6 meals a day...

[Obesity Discussion]

Originally Posted by Collin

thanks, didn't know there was a blog section.

Diet is good...well its ok but getting better. I cut out soda and sweets, eating a lot of lean meat, no fast food, smaller portions and 6 meals a day...

Your diet is better than most I will say! Whether or not you have a calorie deficit, and how big it is, will have a big impact on how quickly you trim up.

You've got a great base to start with!

[Irving]

Welcome Collin

seems as if you have a lot to work with to begin with, you are a lucky man! you seem very motivated; i bet you easily reach your goals!

[Merle]

Glad to have you with us Collin! I know nothing about weightlifting but you seem to know your stuff!

[fbj69]

Welcome man. Good job on the pics i'm doing the same thing. I'll have mine up beggining of the month.

[Collin]

well just got back from the gym. Shouders and back today...had a good string workout....I moved up weight on both the lat pulldown and shoulder press.

Also did 40 minutes at 7mph or higher on the eliptical.

I feel great...not noticing too much from the belly area but time will tell. I'll take more pics at the 7 day mark on monday.

[Obesity Discussion]

Originally Posted by Collin

well just got back from the gym. Shouders and back today...had a good string workout....I moved up weight on both the lat pulldown and shoulder press.

Also did 40 minutes at 7mph or higher on the eliptical.

I feel great...not noticing too much from the belly area but time will tell. I'll take more pics at the 7 day mark on monday.

You probably won't notice much in the belly for quite a while. I'd give it at least 2-3 weeks before you start seeing noticible results. Elliptical is a great cardio machine, my personal favorite; so easy on the joints. Keep up the good work Collin

[Collin]

Originally Posted by Obesity Discussion

You probably won't notice much in the belly for quite a while. I'd give it at least 2-3 weeks before you start seeing noticible results. Elliptical is a great cardio machine, my personal favorite; so easy on the joints. Keep up the good work Collin

yeah running kills my knees...

also been doing the ab exercises I saw on a thread here...definately feel the burn

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saw this link in another thread and it looks pretty good. Definately more advanced and more well thought out than whatever I was doing.

I am gonna get on this program and see how it works out for me. I adjusted it a little to account for machines and equipment my gym may or may not have but overall I think it should work out well...

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/matt88.htm

[Obesity Discussion]

Originally Posted by Collin

saw this link in another thread and it looks pretty good. Definately more advanced and more well thought out than whatever I was doing.

I am gonna get on this program and see how it works out for me. I adjusted it a little to account for machines and equipment my gym may or may not have but overall I think it should work out well...

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/matt88.htm

Good exercises on there for someone looking to get into basic bodybuilding . I have been doing a modified HST routine; I works great for someone like me with limited time to spend in the gym.

[Collin]

DAY 8

Well its sad to report that in the last 3 days I have been out of town and it made it real hard to eat right and go to the gym...So needless to say the last 3 days sucked. I had a decent lunch and went to the gym today. According to the scale at the gym I have lost 4lbs. in the last few days...it doesn't show. My arms and my chest look better (pics don't do it justice). I think I still have a few weeks before the belly fat starts to go.

Anyways, here are the day 8 pictures, not much of a difference from day 1 but hopefully I start seeing changes soon.